{"id":1623,"date":"2020-04-28T07:21:20","date_gmt":"2020-04-28T05:21:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/?p=1623"},"modified":"2020-04-28T07:21:23","modified_gmt":"2020-04-28T05:21:23","slug":"les-supports","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/2020\/04\/28\/les-supports\/","title":{"rendered":"Les supports"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>D\u00e8s que l&rsquo;on se lance dans l&rsquo;impression d&rsquo;un mod\u00e8le, on se trouve rapidement face \u00e0 la question suivante : \u00ab\u00a0Faut-il ou non utiliser des supports ?\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>G\u00e9n\u00e9ralement, on se laisse guider par son slicer pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9, mais est-ce la bonne solution ? Est-il possible de faire autrement ?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Je me propose ici de tester diff\u00e9rentes solutions, en partant du mod\u00e8le ci-dessous.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"389\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_01.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-769\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_01.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_01-350x272.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_01-300x233.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Avec Cura By Dagoma<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Ici, les options sont assez simple&nbsp; : pas de support, support pour les parties touchant le plateau et support partout(int\u00e9rieur de pi\u00e8ce inclus).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sans support, le temps d&rsquo;impression est annonc\u00e9 de 30 minutes, pour 1,21 m\u00e8tres de filament. Il n&rsquo;y a ici aucune possibilit\u00e9 de savoir si des supports sont n\u00e9cessaires, sauf \u00e0 essayer d&rsquo;en mettre &#8230;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>en s\u00e9lectionnant l&rsquo;option \u00ab\u00a0Partie touchant le plateau\u00a0\u00bb, le temps d&rsquo;impression passe \u00e0 33 minutes et 1,36 m\u00e8tres de filament. Par d\u00e9duction, 15 cm de filament pour les supports.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"435\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_02.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-771\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_02.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_02-350x305.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_02-300x261.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>M\u00eame r\u00e9sultat avec l&rsquo;option \u00ab\u00a0Partout\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Avec Cura 3.5.1<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>Sans support, le temps d&rsquo;impression est ici annonc\u00e9 de 23 minutes, pour 1,46 m\u00e8tres de filament. La diff\u00e9rence est li\u00e9e au remplissage (taux et mode).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Par contre, premier avantage, les zones \u00e0 risques sont identifi\u00e9es( en rouge). Ici, on&nbsp; se rend compte imm\u00e9diatement que des supports sont n\u00e9cessaires.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"398\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_03.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-774\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_03.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_03-350x279.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_03-300x239.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>En mode \u00ab\u00a0Recommand\u00e9\u00a0\u00bb, en cochant &lsquo;G\u00e9n\u00e9rer les supports\u00a0\u00bb, on obtient un temps d&rsquo;impression de 0h24 pour 1,53 m de filament.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"373\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_04.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-776\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_04.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_04-350x261.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_04-300x224.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Les supports sont parfois difficiles \u00e0 enlever. L&rsquo;un des avantages de Cura est de pouvoir choisir entre diff\u00e9rents motifs de supports : Ligne, Grille, Triangle, Concentrique, zig-zag, entrecrois\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_05.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-779\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"206\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_06.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-780\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"200\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_07.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-781\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"196\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_08.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-782\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"198\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_09.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-783\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"250\" height=\"196\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_10.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-784\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Pas vraiment de diff\u00e9rence de temps et de longueur de filament selon la m\u00e9thode. La diff\u00e9rence se fera peut-\u00eatre dans la solidit\u00e9 du support et dans sa facilit\u00e9 \u00e0 \u00eatre \u00f4t\u00e9e.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Une option \u00ab\u00a0exp\u00e9rimentale\u00a0\u00bb est disponible dans Cura. Il s&rsquo;agit des supports arborescents, pr\u00e9sent\u00e9 comme le meilleur compromis entre solidit\u00e9, consommation de mati\u00e8re et facilit\u00e9 de d\u00e9tachement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"386\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_11.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-787\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_11.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_11-350x270.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_11-300x232.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Le temps d&rsquo;impression serait de 0h27 mn pour 1,78 m. Le principe est de cr\u00e9er les supports comme les branches d&rsquo;un arbre, ce qui permettrait d&rsquo;obtenir un support plus facile \u00e0 d\u00e9tacher, car les diff\u00e9rentes \u00ab\u00a0branches\u00a0\u00bb serait auto-port\u00e9es. Par flagrant dans notre exemple !!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h4 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Avec Meshmixer<\/h4>\n\n\n\n<p>C&rsquo;est ce m\u00eame principe qui est utilis\u00e9 dans Meshmixer, avec une plus grande souplesse, car il est possible de modifier les supports g\u00e9n\u00e9r\u00e9s, d&rsquo;en supprimer, d&rsquo;en rajouter.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Pour pouvoir g\u00e9rer les supports, il faut d&rsquo;abord que Show Printer Bed soit activ\u00e9.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Dans l&rsquo;onglet Analysis, s\u00e9lectionner l&rsquo;option Overhangs<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"389\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_12.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-789\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_12.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_12-350x272.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_12-300x233.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Nous retrouvons les zones difficiles identifi\u00e9es en rouge. Un point important est que l&rsquo;on peut agir sur le param\u00e8tre Angle Threst, qui d\u00e9fini l&rsquo;angle de d\u00e9port max que peut supporter l&rsquo;imprimante. En fonction de la valeur, les zones \u00e0 risque vont \u00e9voluer.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>En cliquant sur Generate Support, le logiciel g\u00e9n\u00e8re les supports selon les param\u00e8tres sp\u00e9cifi\u00e9s dans les onglets Support Generator et Advanced Support.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"391\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_13.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-791\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_13.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_13-350x274.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_13-300x235.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>On voit ici parfaitement la notion de support arborescent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Remarque :&nbsp; Je vous conseille de d\u00e9marrer avec les param\u00e8tres suivants :<br>Post Diameter : 2 mm<br>Tip Diameter : 0.3 mm<br>Base Diameter : 2.4 mm<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Nous allons am\u00e9liorer le support. Avec Meshmixer, c&rsquo;est assez simple :<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\"><li>clic gauche pour ajouter un support<\/li><li>Crtl + clic gauche pour supprimer un support.<\/li><\/ul>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"500\" height=\"391\" src=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_14.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-794\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_14.jpg 500w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_14-350x274.jpg 350w, https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/support_14-300x235.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 500px) 100vw, 500px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>En voil\u00e0 un beau support .<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Test sur Cura By Dagoma : impression en 0h32 pour 1,28 m de filament.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>D\u00e8s que l&rsquo;on se lance dans l&rsquo;impression d&rsquo;un mod\u00e8le, on se trouve rapidement face \u00e0 la question suivante : \u00ab\u00a0Faut-il ou non utiliser des supports ?\u00a0\u00bb. G\u00e9n\u00e9ralement, on se laisse guider par son slicer pr\u00e9f\u00e9r\u00e9, mais est-ce la bonne solution ? Est-il possible de faire autrement ? Je me propose ici de tester diff\u00e9rentes solutions, &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/2020\/04\/28\/les-supports\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continuer la lecture<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> de &laquo;&nbsp;Les supports&nbsp;&raquo;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1623","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-en-vrac"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1623","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1623"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1623\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1623"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1623"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.aacmb.fr\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1623"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}